Belintar’s magic is all about his own continuity, skating ahead of Death from one body to the next. Harrek doesn’t worry about continuity, community, or much of anything else. He simply is Death.
Am I right in thinking that four of the Guardians are featured attacking Harrek but being defeated here? So that the fate of the two others is not yet shown?
I think the fifth guardian should be air, but it has been replaced by Moon (see the moon rune on the left) and the Moon enjoys Harrek attacking the Holy Country, so she is pursuing her own agenda, not Belintar’s; the Sixth is the Zzaburi guardian and it coordinates them from the core of Belintar’s guardian-god, so I think the Sixth one can’t actually attack without destroying Belintar’s guardian (or fraud, as Harrek names it), but only send the other ones forward.
Episodes 35 and 38 make it clear that Harrek begrudges Belintar’s title of Master of Luck and Death. But if that wasn’t the focus of his rage something else would be, like Belintar’s tactics in episode 33.
Harrek doesn’t really pray to anything, honestly. His god is the white bear skin he wears on his back and the White Bear spirit that he has unleashed in the past few pages. His god is hos own aura, and vice versa.
While I appreciate the desperation of many of these posters to find each other in a mutual orgy of auto-Glorantha-appreciation, this thread badly needs dissent. I was fine with all this until Harrek, but now we are getting into console wars.
Activate the powaz Street Fighter 2. Donkey Kong XVII is weakened.
This is veering way away from dream-like hero paths into Top Trumps.. Desist, regroup, and stop reading below the line. We adulate too strongly.
Harrek resembles an embittered Swiss psychologist from the turn of the last but one century with mother complexes right now. Too many tropes going on. It may be the character who was always there to appeal to caucasian teens.
Put bluntly, I left Glorantha a few panels back.
…and yet a Swiss psychologist from a century ago DOES hold the world in his dead, mummified claws; our films and arts dance on his marrionette strings, our mighty leaders and meanest suffering children drawn to the priests of his Global Pyschotherapeutical Empire. Truly this is the stuff of Heroes!
Dream-like paths like the frantic fleeing before the wave of evil as may occur in nightmares?
This conflict is dragging (way too much of) the Other Side into the mundane world, and that (rather than Chaos) has been the root of destruction in Gloranthan myth and history.
Pollico wrote “That’s an aura. I want one.” Sure about that? It will consume both what the world is around you and what you used to be. It will be a force in the world that a force of nature will struggle to equal.
One thing you certainly don’t want is Harrek or his aura anywhere near an effort of creating stability in the world. His solution to the trollkin curse would be to kill all potential troll mothers.
Harrek is a Hsunchen, woken from a sorcerous sleep into a world he doesn’t understand and that is ruled by forces that have no values in common with his own (primitive ones). What else would he do than become ‘violence’, as the Lord Munchkin says, and destroy any that cannot defeat him? No, he is not a force for stability; he is the bush fire that readies Australia for the next year’s green shoots by clearing out the old growth.
yiasemi – you’re classically trolling. What is your answer besides “this sucks”? People are enjoying and loving this sequence which is classically Gloranthan. If you have real criticism, aside from ad hominens, actually break it down. If you can’t, please admit you’re wrong, step aside, and admit that this is great stuff.
Now about Belintar being a fraud – There -is- something unnatural about Belintar. I’m very interested in the Belintar/Lunar/Nysalor connection. I hope we learn something about that before Harrek destroys him utterely.
Belintar is an adventurer and he learnt and practiced to become almost a God. Harrek claims to use a God to defeat an usurper. Harrek wins.
Belintar’s magic is all about his own continuity, skating ahead of Death from one body to the next. Harrek doesn’t worry about continuity, community, or much of anything else. He simply is Death.
Am I right in thinking that four of the Guardians are featured attacking Harrek but being defeated here? So that the fate of the two others is not yet shown?
I think the fifth guardian should be air, but it has been replaced by Moon (see the moon rune on the left) and the Moon enjoys Harrek attacking the Holy Country, so she is pursuing her own agenda, not Belintar’s; the Sixth is the Zzaburi guardian and it coordinates them from the core of Belintar’s guardian-god, so I think the Sixth one can’t actually attack without destroying Belintar’s guardian (or fraud, as Harrek names it), but only send the other ones forward.
I wonder why Harrek calls Belintar a fraud. Perhaps he knows things about him that we don’t…
Anyway, awesome page!
Episodes 35 and 38 make it clear that Harrek begrudges Belintar’s title of Master of Luck and Death. But if that wasn’t the focus of his rage something else would be, like Belintar’s tactics in episode 33.
Given the synchronicity of Glorantha, Belintar’s act of naming Harrek as the destroyer may have been the trigger that made Harrek into his destroyer.
Oh, surely someone has called Harrek “the destroyer” before Belintar got around to it? Probably long before
Certainly, lots of times. But Belintar has been on the lookout for his own personal Destroyer and now he has found him.
Woah. That´s an aura. I want one. ¿What gods does harrek pray, again? Those Hsunchen are badasses.
Harrek doesn’t really pray to anything, honestly. His god is the white bear skin he wears on his back and the White Bear spirit that he has unleashed in the past few pages. His god is hos own aura, and vice versa.
I did know that, but I didn´t remember.
Despite of that, WOW. He is… ashtonishing.
In some ways it could be construed that Harrek is the “Fist of Arachne Solara” in the 3rd Age.
While I appreciate the desperation of many of these posters to find each other in a mutual orgy of auto-Glorantha-appreciation, this thread badly needs dissent. I was fine with all this until Harrek, but now we are getting into console wars.
Activate the powaz Street Fighter 2. Donkey Kong XVII is weakened.
This is veering way away from dream-like hero paths into Top Trumps.. Desist, regroup, and stop reading below the line. We adulate too strongly.
Harrek resembles an embittered Swiss psychologist from the turn of the last but one century with mother complexes right now. Too many tropes going on. It may be the character who was always there to appeal to caucasian teens.
Put bluntly, I left Glorantha a few panels back.
…and yet a Swiss psychologist from a century ago DOES hold the world in his dead, mummified claws; our films and arts dance on his marrionette strings, our mighty leaders and meanest suffering children drawn to the priests of his Global Pyschotherapeutical Empire. Truly this is the stuff of Heroes!
Dream-like paths like the frantic fleeing before the wave of evil as may occur in nightmares?
This conflict is dragging (way too much of) the Other Side into the mundane world, and that (rather than Chaos) has been the root of destruction in Gloranthan myth and history.
Pollico wrote “That’s an aura. I want one.” Sure about that? It will consume both what the world is around you and what you used to be. It will be a force in the world that a force of nature will struggle to equal.
One thing you certainly don’t want is Harrek or his aura anywhere near an effort of creating stability in the world. His solution to the trollkin curse would be to kill all potential troll mothers.
Harrek is a Hsunchen, woken from a sorcerous sleep into a world he doesn’t understand and that is ruled by forces that have no values in common with his own (primitive ones). What else would he do than become ‘violence’, as the Lord Munchkin says, and destroy any that cannot defeat him? No, he is not a force for stability; he is the bush fire that readies Australia for the next year’s green shoots by clearing out the old growth.
yiasemi – you’re classically trolling. What is your answer besides “this sucks”? People are enjoying and loving this sequence which is classically Gloranthan. If you have real criticism, aside from ad hominens, actually break it down. If you can’t, please admit you’re wrong, step aside, and admit that this is great stuff.
Harrek is “violence”, like it or lump it, that’s his role. It’s not that he is some psychologist… he’s “violence” it’s that simple.
Is the next page coming? 🙂
Now about Belintar being a fraud – There -is- something unnatural about Belintar. I’m very interested in the Belintar/Lunar/Nysalor connection. I hope we learn something about that before Harrek destroys him utterely.